botherd | Obligatory Thursday Skins Post

Oh my God, NOTHING hits my embarrassment squick like people singing on TV shows. (Not in a musical type scenario, like Glee or Once More, With Feeling, but in situations like this.) ACK. Throughout that whole last scene I was just going omgmakeitstopmakeitstopmakeitstop.

Anyway, I... didn't really like this episode at all. Effy just tried to kill herself, and Naomi and Emily are in the single most depressing relationship I've ever seen, and we're meant to care about this shit? I like JJ, but I care about his relationships with the other main characters, not some girl we've never met before. And, IDK, I felt like the whole thing was lacking depth. His episode last year was SO GOOD, it had so many meaningful moments between JJ and lots of other characters, and this was just blah. I mean, a recurring theme with JJ is that he can't get a girlfriend, and then he gets one almost straight away and even when he fucks up hugely it's easily solved and they live happily ever after IN SPACE? I don't buy it.

Also, Cook breaking out of prison is one of the stupidest storylines they've ever done.

Back to Naomi and Emily - WHY are they still together? Oh, God, someone needs to put them out of their misery. And it's stupid, because they've basically had no development since Emily's episode, and by the time the finale rolls around it will have been MONTHS AND MONTHS since the cheating revelation, and STILL they're in this horrible depressing limbo. It's not the sort of thing that can be fixed in one episode, but I'm worried that they're going to try and do just that, and it'll be shallow and unsatisfying. Or else they'll break up in the finale, and it'll be a super depressing ending to the most drawn-out breakup ever. Basically: I think Naomi and Emily are fucked either way, and even though I've sort of fallen out of love with the pairing I still resent the writers for doing that.

Effy next week. I would be excited, but it looks like more triangle bullshit. Does anyone still care about that?

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Basically: I think Naomi and Emily are fucked either way, and even though I've sort of fallen out of love with the pairing I still resent the writers for doing that.

yup.

I really don't get how they managed to take such a beloved pairing and fuck them up in the worst way imaginable. :(

i don't either. i know it's just a show, but i'm feeling pretty betrayed here. is that going to be their "thing" now? make people invest in characters in the first series of a generation, only to tear it all down the next? i doubt i'll be able to get invested if there is a next generation.

I might just be watching too much Korean drama (the things those couples go through are ridiculous), but I still like the Naomily pairing - though, I would have obviously preferred no cheating storyline to begin with.

My biggest regret for this season is the fact that the episodes are so focussed on a single character, that they seem to forget other plotlines and characters (as in, EFFY JUST TRIED TO KILL HERSELF, WHY ARE YOU NOT UPSET??)

I agree with this. Unless the episode is focused on them, the characters seem more like caricatures then three-dimensional people. We besically get no development for them, sometimes even regression (Cook and prison, NE being miserable together without moving forward one bit). And don't get me started in the plot holes and unexplained developments.

My biggest regret for this season is the fact that the episodes are so focussed on a single character, that they seem to forget other plotlines and characters

THIS. I think the insular episodes were the single biggest mistake the writers made.

mte. It's not just NE though, it's this entire season.

Yeah, I feel like series four has been the systematic destruction of everything I loved about series three. (Except Katie. Katie was awesome.)

Agreed, Katie is the only character we've seen have positive character growth (and they still slapped her with ~premature menopause~ WTF?)

I enjoyed it and thought it was really cute but it was such a waste of an episode. That's two episodes this season that tons of time was spent on a cute girl we'll never see again and don't give a fuck about. Focus on the important stuff, Skins. Like relationships between main characters and not relationships with random chicks.

I feel like if it had been, say, episode three or thereabouts, it would've fit better, but at this stage it just seems wrong to have an episode that was so superfluous to the plot as a whole. I mean, you could take this episode out and it wouldn't make a difference to ANY other characters' storylines.

I could never not love NE, but it may be because in my mind there's a whole lot going on behind the scenes that we're just not being shown (the problem with such insular episodes!). I know that there are a lot of flaws this series, and most of them I can't overlook, but I love NE too much to give up on them now. Because let's face it, they weren't perfectly written in S3, so I never expected them to be perfectly written in S4 either.

But BE's writing the finale and Naomi will probably play a big part in Effy's episode, so I'm really not that worried. It most likely won't be wrapped up as nicely as I'd like, but that's how it goes. *shrugs* Maybe I'm just used to being let down by TV shows before, but it really doesn't bother me all that much.

Or maybe I'm just looking too much into NE. Either way, I can't give them up. Even seeing them sad and broken makes me happy, for some reason. Just them, together -- it does things to my heart. You know?

I agree that there must be more going on behind the scenes, but... we really need to see that stuff for a reconciliation to make sense. I feel like the only way they could possibly make it okay now is if they take a LONG break and there's obviously not time for that to happen. I know they weren't perfectly written last series but they were still well written, whereas this series they're just a mess.

AMEN. Cute episode, whatever--total waste of time.

Naomi/Emily is, as you said, totally fucked up any way they choose to go with it. Why even have them still living together? They act like they're trapped in a marriage, when they're, like, seventeen. Girls, it's okay. Break up. You'll get over it faster if you're not staring at someone's angry face all day long. Jesus.

Everyone's a caricature if it's not their episode, agree. Cook breaking out of prison makes NO SENSE given his episode, but I guess since it's not his episode, it's back to Cook-the-Prick time.

They act like they're trapped in a marriage, when they're, like, seventeen.

SERIOUSLY. It's so ridiculous and frankly, completely out of character for them both; I thought they both had more self-respect than to stay in such an unhealthy relationship.

Cook's episode was good, and I hate that they've completely negated all the character development he had then. It's just like, what is the point of anything that's happened this series?

Back to Naomi and Emily - WHY are they still together? Oh, God, someone needs to put them out of their misery. And it's stupid, because they've basically had no development since Emily's episode, and by the time the finale rolls around it will have been MONTHS AND MONTHS since the cheating revelation, and STILL they're in this horrible depressing limbo. It's not the sort of thing that can be fixed in one episode, but I'm worried that they're going to try and do just that, and it'll be shallow and unsatisfying. Or else they'll break up in the finale, and it'll be a super depressing ending to the most drawn-out breakup ever. Basically: I think Naomi and Emily are fucked either way, and even though I've sort of fallen out of love with the pairing I still resent the writers for doing that.

Oh, Julia. That sums up my reaction entirely. Their whole storyline was ugly and no one is having fun and it's SO unhealthy. You just know they're stringing them along for angst purposes only.

I honestly think the show has forgotten how to write properly. It breaks my heart, J. It honestly does.

I honestly think the show has forgotten how to write properly.

Yeah, pretty much, and I blame Jamie Brittain as the showrunner (although the quality of individual episodes has plummeted too). God, we were all SO EXCITED for this series and now... disappointment doesn't even cover it. It's a complete fucking mess.

well cook is supposed to be moving in with them so I'm thinking he's probably going to be the one who's all "guys what you have is special. get it together!!!"

If cook can't fix their relationship no one can. I reckon he's so experienced at breaking things that he'll make a great fixer.

I don't really think that Cook can fix them. I feel like they're so entrenched in this miserable unhealthy relationship that only time apart could make it better, but with two episodes left it doesn't look like that'll happen. I just don't think there's any way to credibly redeem the relationship at this point, and that makes me sad.

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