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botherd ([personal profile] botherd) wrote2010-05-17 10:40 am

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Fuck, I love 6Music. I never used to listen to the radio because they're all full of annoying adverts or obnoxious DJs that aren't nearly as funny as they think they are, but I started listening to 6Music after I heard that they were going to get rid of it and I LOVE it. Lauren Laverne is so awesome.

Anyway, I actually opened up the update window to ask you all a question about your fic preferences. Specifically: how do you feel about fics that switch PoV between two different characters? Does it bug you? I'm not really a big fan of fics that switch PoVs, but I have a fic idea that just might demand it. :/ The problem is, the bulk of it wants to be from character A's perspective, but there are some scenes that would only really work from character B's PoV because character A isn't even involved. What to do??
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[identity profile] botherd.livejournal.com 2010-05-17 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
I think I'd vaguely heard of 6Music but never bothered to listen until everyone started saying what a tragedy it was that it was going to be axed. Listenership is way up though so I'm hoping they'll keep it.

If I did write switching PoV I don't think I'd switch too much, and I'd make sure it was clearly defined - I hate it when people switch in the middle of a paragraph or something like that. The fic I'm talking about isn't actually the one I'm writing for you, but I promise I haven't forgotten about your fic! I feel terrible that it's been taking me so long but I will get it done. :)

[identity profile] summerstorm.livejournal.com 2010-05-17 11:00 am (UTC)(link)
I used to feel wary of writing switching PoVs until I realized several of my favorite stories had them. You just don't notice if it's well-written; it's not jarring, and it sometimes makes the story feel more dynamic. I mostly see switching-PoV stories that have one scene or part from one PoV, one scene or part from another and so forth, so I'm not entirely sure what yours would look like, but, as I said, as long as it's ~organic/a natural development of the narrative, it shouldn't be a problem.

[identity profile] botherd.livejournal.com 2010-05-17 11:06 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's what I was planning, having one part from one character's PoV, then the next part from the second character's PoV. I think one of my main concerns is that I don't think I'd be sharing out the scenes equally, and if I had the majority of it from one character's PoV and just a handful of scenes from the other character's PoV, that might make it feel a bit... lopsided.

[identity profile] summerstorm.livejournal.com 2010-05-17 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
You know, actually I think that kind of imbalance is only really noticeable to the writer, especially when you use an outline and can see the lack of symmetry. It's a bit like my waning obsession with equal-length scenes, where you (universal you, or probably just me) feel like it's a creative issue but actually it's just you being OCD about technical orderliness.

[identity profile] botherd.livejournal.com 2010-05-17 11:25 am (UTC)(link)
That's a good point! I can also get a bit obsessed with scene length and whether it looks weird to have scenes of varying length, but I don't think I've ever noticed that in a fic I've read. So, thanks, that's reassuring! :D

[identity profile] supergoodtimes.livejournal.com 2010-05-17 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I love 6Music too, only been listening for the past 3 years though. And yes Lauren Laverne is awesome! I also have spent most of the ends of my week (Sunday's 10-12) listening to Guy Garvey, followed by a slot of Bob Dylan...
I don't even mind me some commercial stations (when they actually play music) but I would have missed out of so many great times without BBC6!

On the fic thing I don't mind a change in PoV but I prefer the change not to be every chapter.. and it would be better if one of the character's PoV was dominant.

[identity profile] botherd.livejournal.com 2010-05-17 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, I've only been listening at work but I should make an effort to tune in on Sunday mornings!

It's interesting that you'd prefer that one character's PoV was dominant, because I would've expected that most people would prefer a more even split. But that works out well for me, because I think I would have the main focus on one character with just bits from another.

[identity profile] holeybubushka.livejournal.com 2010-05-17 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey Dude. I'm just thrilled to hear you're writing again. I missed it. Esp. since you're last story featured dead!Emily which left me feeling sad.

With the POV thing, I don't mind mixed perspective. Although I suppose I like them clearly defined- like, perhaps sectioned off, or something? Ugh, it's late and I've got the flu, but do you get what I mean? Clearly defined povs, since I'm personally not the biggest fan of a pov suddenly changing one POV to the next.

I just saw the afterellen hot 100. Go Loveless! Go KPress. And, awww, yay, Meg is there as well! The picture they picked for Kaya, though, is downright scary.

Hope you're going well <3
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[identity profile] holeybubushka.livejournal.com 2010-05-17 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
You are seriously THE NICEST PERSON! Thank you for the milk and cookies. It made me crave these delicious biscuits called Tim Tams. I do not know if you have them in merry old England, but if you do, GO BUY TH3M NOW. Best thing to come of my country.

I don't want to talk about this too much, since this is Julia's lj, but were you happy with the result? I love the Libdems, and hopefully they can bring out the nice bits of the Tory policies (I'm a big civil liberties kind of fan, and the conservative state government where I live has just issued a whole bunch of draconian laws which makes me sad). I'm also impressed with any political party who wear yellow so proudly.

[identity profile] botherd.livejournal.com 2010-05-17 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Feel better, dude. ♥

I can't believe how long it's been since I've written anything! The fic I'm planning now isn't Skins though, and I'm not sure whether you're familiar with the fandom (Legend of the Seeker). I definitely agree that if you're going to switch PoVs, they have to be clearly defined.

The AfterEllen list always cracks me up. Anyone who's ever played gay, or is gay in real life, is guaranteed to make the list. (Do people really find Ellen Degeneres hot? Really?) Also, yeah, that pic of Kaya is terrible. She's so photogenic! How could it be that difficult to find a nice pic of her?

[identity profile] old-wp.livejournal.com 2010-05-17 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, WHAT ARE YOU WRITING? *chinhands*

Re: switching POVs. Sometimes a story calls for it! It can be irritating when done seemingly arbitrarily. Sometimes it can make the story feel disjointed, or not cohesive—just a series of interlocking scenes from multiple perspectives. Or, worse, the same scene from multiple perspectives, and never, ever as interesting as Rashomon (the beauty of multiple perspectives is in showing how people in totally different ways, or in introducing an unreliable narrator). It can be done right, though, and I totally trust you can do it.

[identity profile] botherd.livejournal.com 2010-05-17 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
BIG FAT DISCLAIMER: there is an excellent chance that this fic won't ever get written, so don't get your hopes up or anything. Um, I may be writing Seeker fic for [community profile] ladiesbigbang? This kind of depends on whether the finale completely josses my idea.

I think I'll have to plan it all out before I decide whether to use multiple PoVs. If there are only a couple of scenes that really call for a different PoV I'll probably decide it's not worth it and find other ways to convey the same information.

[identity profile] old-wp.livejournal.com 2010-05-17 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
OH, I am so intrigued! If you need any help with it, or whatever, let me know. I WILL BE YOUR CHEERLEADER. ♥ (And, really, in anything you decide to write, if you don't decide to go ahead with this one. I like reading your stories.)

[identity profile] botherd.livejournal.com 2010-05-17 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, dude, thanks! I just might take you up on that offer. ♥

[identity profile] muiriosa.livejournal.com 2010-05-17 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Never heard of 6Music (as I open it in a new tab!)

Re switching PoVs, I'm not really a fan but that's mostly because I like the build up to the romance more so than that the actual getting together (I think I'm possibly in the minority here but I adore UST!). I find the switching of PoVs kinda gives too much away in that regard...I adore happy endings as much as the next but I would prefer one character pining away without necessarily knowing (as a reader) what the other character is feeling.

That said, like most have said, it can be (and has been!) done well so I've no doubt you'll do it well!

[identity profile] botherd.livejournal.com 2010-05-17 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, you make a really good point about the build-up of UST (which is also my favourite thing!) and how switching PoVs affects that, so I'll definitely have to think about how that'll work in my fic.